Occasionally I get contacted, usually from someone new to this plight, about how to detox from the Fluoroquinolones (FQ’s). This is a complex subject that I admit is hard to make sense of given the varied amount of information that is found floating around the Internet, and unfortunately much of it based on flawed paradigms, assumptions, and beliefs. Let’s briefly look at detoxification and, despite what you have read or heard, how most of it does not apply to FQ’s.
First of all, detoxification is unquestionably a natural process that is always going on in our bodies. Numerous organs and systems including the liver, kidneys, lungs, lymphatic system, gastrointestinal tract, and bladder all contribute to the regular elimination of the natural metabolic byproducts of digestion, activity, and cellular regeneration.
Many aspects of our modern life can make the work of these organs much harder and given our mass produced, highly manufactured, chemically laden society, the burden placed on these organs can eventually lead to a disease process. However many in the alternative world erroneously suggest that detoxing is possible from FQ’s. This type of thinking presents an ignorance about how the FQ’s work in the human body.
Now, let me say that it is highly probable that, for many, the FQ’s interfere or ‘throw off’ many metabolic processes. These disrupted metabolic processes can, for some, cause the accumulation of toxic products to occur in the body. For instance, I have seen some floxies become very chemically sensitive and it would suggest that, among other things, their metabolic systems involved in removing toxins have become impaired. I have also seen an unusual amount of floxies become affected by or sensitive to the burden of heavy metals that have been accumulated throughout a lifetime of environmental exposure. These things become manifest after floxing.
For some, eating healthier, juicing, relieving chronic constipation, staying better hydrated, or some other detoxifying procedure or products (like Zeolite) provides some relief from some of the unpleasant symptoms incurred by these various malfunctioning metabolic processes and accumulation of toxins. This is all well and good but not to be a Debbie Downer it does not actually detox or remove the FQ’s or their metabolites. It just addresses some of the downstream problems associated with FQAD.
Remember, to stay on point, I am talking just about the removal of, or detoxing, the Fluoroquinolones or their metabolites, from the body, not other substances that they FQ’s have caused to accumulate through their damaging actions.
Over the last decade I have talked to literally hundreds of FQ victims and have had direct and indirect interactions with many, many more. I have extensively worked with researchers, met with the FDA (not really all that important but is sounds impressive), and even have been foolhardy to pay out of the pocket in the past for expensive health consultants during my times of desperation. I have watched groups of people take three paths in an attempt to heal; #1, do nothing, #2 pursue alternative healing methods either through naturopaths, holistic healers, etc…, #3 rely on traditional doctors and traditional medicine. With the slight exception that the group choosing to follow path #3 has seems to have a slightly worse outcome (give or take a few percentage points), no path has resulted in greater healing over the other! Seriously.
If there was a form of detoxing that would work to remove the Fluoroquinolones or their metabolites from the body (if there are actually any FQ’s left in the body), everyone would know about it and everyone would use it to heal and move on with their lives.
Also, it is not necessary for the Fluoroquinolones to remain in the body for them to do damage, you can read that FAQ here.
So, why does detoxing not directly affect the Fluoroquinolones?
- FQ’s are synthetic not natural designed for deep tissue penetration.
- FQ’s damage the body in the same fashion that chemotherapy (anti-cancer) and heavy metals damage the body (Note the FQ’s are not heavy metals).
- FQ’s can damage both nuclear and mitochondrial DNA.
- FQ’s can change gene expression and start pathogenic (disease) processes.
- FQ’s do not need to remain in the body to cause long term damage via the above genetic avenues.
- FQ’s can damage other cellular structures besides DNA.
- FQ’s can permanently alter the gut microbiome.
- FQ’s can upregulate MMP’s causing long term connective tissue problems.
- and on and on (I could literally make a list with over a hundred entries).
I will fully concede that certain detoxing regimens of procedures may help some individuals deal with or correct the unpleasant symptoms of metabolic systems that have gone awry, especially if these detox protocols are done very safely. However, caution is indicated because, conversely, for some, detoxing has proven to be dangerous and cause unwanted symptoms or harm. One thing is for certain, detoxing is not a ‘cure’ for floxing and, due to the complexities involved in floxing, cannot be universally applied to everyone as a treatment. From the experience shared with me by many individuals who have tried detoxing, the detoxing paradigms of many alternative medicine practitioners, who claim to be able to ‘remove’ or ‘cure’ FQAD do not apply to a synthetic DNA damaging/altering chemotherapeutic agent that should not be handed out like candy by our ignorant medical establishment.
David, I think your view of detoxing is quite discouraging. Perhaps it’s not possible to “detox” the Fluoroquinolones themselves from your body, but I have had much success with removing damaged cells and toxic deposits with natural methods. I have been working to heal from Levaquin poisoning for 8 years, and I am using only so-called “natural “ or “alternative “ methods and advice from practitioners such as chiropractors and an Ayurvedic doctor. It is slow, but I am making steady progress.
An example: ionic foot baths… a lot of the toxicity of my condition has settled in my feet, causing inflammation and discoloration. A professional quality ionic foot bath machine (one with a bracelet to facilitate the action of the negative ions moving through the body) removes an impressive amount of minute black particles from my feet. The literature defines this sludge of black particles as “dead cell residue.” My feet feel and look better after an ionic foot bath.
I hope you will encourage people to use natural detoxing methods to clear out the damage caused by FQs.
From the text above….”And for some, eating healthier, juicing, or some other safe detoxifying procedures provides some relief from some of the unpleasant symptoms incurred by these various malfunctioning metabolic processes.” That is the best you will get from me. You see, over the years I have seen many people hurt, injured or financially ‘taken’ by practitioners in all modalities of healing, allopathic, naturopathic, & homeopathic. So, on most things I remain painfully neutral. I will acknowledge that some people get ‘relief’ from various forms of therapy, but I will not endorse them universally to everyone. The minute I endorse ‘detoxification’ (which has different meanings to different people), someone will claim to have been harmed by it. My view must remain less myopic.
Hello, it is clear that we all seek, as much as we are, to get rid of the devastating effects of all kinds that we undergo following the taking of this antibiotics. Muscle, tendon, digestive system, central nervous system, hearing, sight, etc.
I have always taken care of my health through a healthy diet and physical well-being, gentle therapies and traditional Chinese medicine, medicinal plants from my garden, etc.
2 years ago I was brought to the emergency room because of loss of consciousness very high sudden fever at 41 ° c, intravenously they put this antibiotic Ofloxacin without warning me, without my consent. And since it’s terrible and today disabled without much improvement despite my gentle care and natural supplements including Plastiferrine, Formag, etc, lately I even did a cure of green clay for 3 months, nothing. I think that already we do not have the same reactions and not the same results, but patience remains our chance of hope towards the best slowly.
I have a group on Facebook and we all worked together figuring out how to heal from FQs. Hundreds of us have fully healed. We tried to teach others how to heal. What we have found most lack the self discipline to heal and they want a magic bullet that will heal them quickly and that just will not happen. It takes time and persistence and lots of self discipline.
What is the Facebook group???
Lee what is the Facebook group? Can we Join?